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Xeng Suey · Feb 27, 2010, 12:38 PM // 12:38

Hi all!

I dont bring u a really new build to farm, just an amalgam of ideias i had that lead into a kind of MANLY-Spike modded for Slavers Exile.

First off: If u came here to flame or to troll, get the hell out right now.

I need somone who is interested into new HM pve farming to test this for me (since i have 0 friends in PvE and pugs cant be arsed to play this bars because their brains are very much REDENGINEGORED.....).

The build essence is pretty much the FOWSC MANLY-Spike build: aggro mobs, ball them quite tighly and then spike them down fast as possible.

So here the build image:

The bar codes:

Sin
[GW Team Builder Export;A2ACdzULQL8RQSIRM9JTA]

2 x Warr
[GW Team Builder Export;AxBCh70XwTcVsDKTCXOnB]

Sockwave Ele
[GW Team Builder Export;A2BCRXeO4K0Kk6YLmK8VB]

MoP NEcro
[GW Team Builder Export;A0BC9JkKaJsLWGsAFTmIA]

SoS Rit
[GW Team Builder Export;AoACNAix4NdNZsBdcdcxA]

Ether renewal Ele (Prot)
[GW Team Builder Export;A2ACdzULQLcXV3oFFQcQA]

Ether renewal Ele (Heal)
[GW Team Builder Export;A2ACdzULQL8RQSIRM9JTA]

As u can see the build is not much different from the manly spike used in fowsc. But we have 3 different characters here:

1. SHOCKWAVE ELE: this character have the hability to teleport to the warriors (ofc u have to wait for necro call target first) and then use, for this order, shock>aftershor>grasping earth>shockwave (if the spike is done correctly, in the major of the situations, the ele prolly wont have time to cast grasping and shockwave).
This character could also be ditched out for a suportive smiter (witch can be a monk or and ether renewal ele aswell) witch would use strengt of honor, smite hex and smite conditions, amongst other skills depending if ur chosing a monk or a ele for this role.

2. ETHER RENEWAL PROT: this caracter have the hability to bond sin, shockwave ele/smiter and warriors with protective bond. Notice that protective bond helps alot versus the hudge dmg dealt in HM, making the work of the healer relatively easier. Also, this character can prot his team mates with other highly efective (and energy cost) prot skills. The reason i chose E/Mo prot instead of primary monk, is because its possible to spam prots withou going out on energy with a E/Mo, making like easy for people

3. ETHER RENEWAL HEAL: SPAM YOUR HEALZZZ! not much to say about it....

Once again, the ideia is simple: aggro mob, ball them up, SPIKE!
Ideia is simple such as the play style.

If u have a group of friends willing to try this, pls pm me here on forum or ing: Oo Deus Ex Oo (i sawp characters alot, so u might have to add me on f-list...). If u gonnna pm me for insulting, trolling and flaming, you will be imediatle ignored and reported.

Constructive cooments are very welcome
tkx for reading and sorry my english

Cheers

Gunnar Ironbow · Feb 27, 2010, 12:59 PM // 12:59

Id come as a 100b

Athanielle Il · Feb 27, 2010, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Interruptions

Nilator · Feb 27, 2010, 01:40 PM // 13:40

I'd be willing to come as a Rit.

s3bek · Feb 27, 2010, 01:45 PM // 13:45

I can come as 100b

PM me IG >> Black Turret

Shayne Hawke · Feb 27, 2010, 02:32 PM // 14:32

Is that team just for General Slavers' with a different setup vs. Duncan? What would you do against Duncan with a build like that?

Masacru Ak · Feb 27, 2010, 03:05 PM // 15:05

Spoil Victor - Sv necro oldschool for Duncan Hm-Nm , do you remember . If those builds are working of course for Slavers Exile

Xeng Suey · Feb 27, 2010, 03:08 PM // 15:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

Is that team just for General Slavers' with a different setup vs. Duncan? What would you do against Duncan with a build like that?

Maybe different setup for DUncan. perhaps changing the shockwave ele for a SV/Swap necro.

And with some tactics the pops of blood moobs can be easily killed

Elephantaliste · Feb 27, 2010, 04:11 PM // 16:11

on sin, u may save IAU for anything else eventually since you can use ales with Dwarven Stability already

how do you plan to kill Dunkan ? if you don't want to dedicated too many skills/attribute point for him, you can pawn him with Signet of Sorrow only as a (slow) backup
(a hero is good at that)

if you don't swap spirit (not always necessary), disenchant spirit might be annoying
i don't know if Signet of Binding prevent spirits to reswpan.

got my retired ele with right completed quest if needed

Kosman · Feb 27, 2010, 05:11 PM // 17:11

Hmm, curious if this works...

I could try playing the perma later on next week.

IGN: Almighty Lee

Xeng Suey · Feb 27, 2010, 05:32 PM // 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elephantaliste

on sin, u may save IAU for anything else eventually since you can use ales with Dwarven Stability already

how do you plan to kill Dunkan ? if you don't want to dedicated too many skills/attribute point for him, you can pawn him with Signet of Sorrow only as a (slow) backup
(a hero is good at that)

if you don't swap spirit (not always necessary), disenchant spirit might be annoying
i don't know if Signet of Binding prevent spirits to reswpan.

got my retired ele with right completed quest if needed

As i said before: For Duncan i was thinking in switching the sockwave ele for a Necro with the folowing configuration:

[SvSwap necro;OAdDQcZ2SdCqQYBahcBTVVV1ZA]

About disenchantment spirit:

If u observe the rit bar, you will see that i deliver in itthe following skill: gaze of Fury. This skill alows u to kill disenchantment and get and ally spirit witch will sligtly help, on dmg output.

About the effectivness of the build:

If party use consets the whole run would be done in 2/3hours depending on type of experience on the players

Xeng Suey · Mar 05, 2010, 08:01 PM // 20:01

No more opinions on this ?

Still need poeple to test this. pls pm me ing or post here ur opinions.

Cheers

Sethellington · Mar 06, 2010, 01:33 AM // 01:33

I'll come as MoP

IGN: X Everlong X

Maybe Whirlwind is a better idea on the ele than shock? If they're all balled anyway.

Also, have you tested the perma? Can it survive HM Duncan with prot bond or do you not have a perma to test with?

AtomicMew · Mar 06, 2010, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Just do it with H/H. It's easy.

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Hero_Spiritway

Xeng Suey · Mar 06, 2010, 03:17 AM // 03:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sethellington

I'll come as MoP

IGN: X Everlong X

Maybe Whirlwind is a better idea on the ele than shock? If they're all balled anyway.

Also, have you tested the perma? Can it survive HM Duncan with prot bond or do you not have a perma to test with?

In case u didnt understand sock is to use on the spiked target and then use after shock(sou get the +dmg bonus of foe being knocked)

That sin with the bonds and heal partys will be perfectly healthy even in duncan, but i still need to test it....

Quote:

Just do it with H/H. It's easy.

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Hero_Spiritway

i think this shuld be obvious, but i'll say it to you: If i wanted a heroe build i would have made it, and i wouldnt need to come here and ask people about opinions/construtive coments... If this isnt obvious for ýou, you should turn back to tetris. gl hf

AtomicMew · Mar 06, 2010, 03:48 AM // 03:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeng Suey

i think this shuld be obvious, but i'll say it to you: If i wanted a heroe build i would have made it, and i wouldnt need to come here and ask people about opinions/construtive coments... If this isnt obvious for ýou, you should turn back to tetris. gl hf

You want constructive criticism? Ok, here:

1) The goal of farming is doing things efficiently. Duncan in HM (at least, getting to duncan) can be done easily in <30 minutes with H/H. You cannot do that significantly faster with 8 players, and thus, the entire concept is flawed.

If you can't accept that, thats your prob. But at the very least, you need to admit that what you are doing, it is not farming. You need to at least admit that.

Also, just a few things that anyone who is experienced should notice off the bat:

1) "Dodge this!" on HB wars. That is not part of the spike and useless.
2) Shockwave ele. Bad. If you REALLY have extra space, just take another war.
3) ER eles. Are these hero builds...? If so, it's obvious that heroes wont use the builds properly. Are they player builds? If so, they should be HB and/or UA.
4) Where is BS? Heal party?

So as you should see, the individual player builds are not good. They show extreme lack of experience. They are not built properly and it is quite obvious that you do not know what "manly spike" IS.

Sethellington · Mar 06, 2010, 01:13 PM // 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeng Suey

In case u didnt understand sock is to use on the spiked target and then use after shock(sou get the +dmg bonus of foe being knocked)

That sin with the bonds and heal partys will be perfectly healthy even in duncan, but i still need to test it....

Why does the target need to be knocked down? I doesn't in Dungeon/FoW SC's, what's different here? Also, you need to chill out, what people are saying is constructive criticism, you're just unwilling to accept it.